The Membership Relations Committee is happy to have the Geocacher Profile backup and running. We selected Jeremiah Sanders family aka Sanders_Sooners to be the next geocachers to be in the spotlight.

What is your geocaching name? Sanders_Sooners

How did you choose your handle? We are originally from Oklahoma and are fans of the Sooners. Added our last name to the handle.

How long have you been geocaching? We started geocaching May 2013.

How did you find your first Geocache, and which one was it? The first cache we found was GC30CM5; nothing special, just close to home. We were hooked from the start!

Who usually goes with you when you go caching? Most of my caching is solo. When we have time, Trail_Rated and I will do a full day caching expedition.

How long will you work on puzzle caches before you give up? I never give up on solving a puzzle. Sometimes I will be stumped and put it on the back burner. I usually spend a lot of time solving puzzles from all over the country during the winter. This gives me ideas for my own puzzles and sometimes I spot something that will help me solve another puzzle a year after originally trying to solve it.

What town/areas have you most enjoyed caching in? We have found caches in 20 states so far. Typically we focus on quality when we travel, seeking out high favorite point caches or historic caches. Our most enjoyable caches usually involve terrain and scenic areas. We especially enjoyed caching around Moab Utah finding caches only reachable by Jeep.

Do you do paperless caching? Is there another way? We find caches via Cachly app on iPhone.

What kind of geocaching rig do you use? By “rig” do you mean geo-mobile? We get from cache to cache aboard Boomer the Geo-Jeep (4 door wrangler). Discover trackable EGWDA9.

Why would you recommend anyone else to take up geocaching? It is a great family activity that can bring you to places you didn’t know existed. There is something for every type of cacher; hiking, urban, puzzles, scuba, gadgets. You will also meet some great people along the way.

Where are you originally from? We are originally from “no man’s land”, Oklahoma panhandle. We have lived in NW Arkansas/Bentonville for last 16yrs.

In what states have you geocached? So far we have found caches in 20 states. Arkansas,Oklahoma, Missouri, and Texas are all over 100 finds

What was your first event ever attended? August Souvenir kick off 2014 in Bella Vista Arkansas. We just attended our first GIGA / Geo-Woodstock in Cincinnati OH.

How many caches have you found? Currently at 1,754 caches, we are starting to slow down with all the local caches in the bag. Typically try to find a dozen or so when we travel.

Which type of cache container do you prefer over the rest? Anything unique or custom that blends into its environment. Never turn down a classic ammo can.

What was the most famous cache that you have found? The most famous would probably be Mingo. We have found the oldest cache in 8 states.

Do you use disposable batteries or rechargeable batteries? Just recharge my iPhone

Do you enjoy hiding or finding more as your part of the hobby? Both hiding and finding are enjoyable. I feel like they are almost 2 separate games. I put a lot of work and expense into many of my caches. It is awesome to read a great log. Finding amazing caches is the fuel that keeps me going and motivates me to raise the bar in my hides.

Do you have a personal goal in mind when you make a hide? Just that people enjoy the cache and hope they tell others about the quality of caches in NW Arkansas / Bentonville area. Many of the cache hiders in the area take pride in hiding caches and focus on making NWA a geocaching destination.

What is your favorite type of cache hide? I have several types of hides from easy P&Gs to 5D puzzle and 5D terrain. My favorite hide is something I would like to find. Probably a high terrain / hiking cache with an ammo can at a scenic location. Likely not found very often but worth the hunt.

Out of all your hides, what are your personal favorites that you take pride in? We have 20 caches with at least 10 favorite points, some of them only a couple months old. Some of my favorite hides are Augmented Reality NWA - GC7QGCJ (the first active AR cache in the world!),Night Cache - GC530E5, Zero In GC7JYRB, Frogger - GC7J3P6, Dead Drop - GC6ZRAP, Goad Springs -GC55C79 (archived), 50ft Down - GC6649T (archived), Cold Cave - GC679G1, Quandary - GC78KKK.

What do you think the proper hide to find ratio should be to keep the sport fresh? We have over 200 caches hidden. The proper hide to find ratio depends on how many caches you can maintain. If you look at my logs, I regularly check in my caches. On average 10 a week. If the cache is hidden well enough with the proper container it won’t require much maintenance. However, I don’t think someone with 5 finds should hide any caches. There should be a minimum quantity, probably at least 50 finds before hiding a cache.

How did you end up getting into this wacky hobby? We were introduced to geocaching during a camping trip with by brother-in-law, “Trail_Rated”. We found a couple caches that first weekend and were hooked.

What's your favorite geocache? Hands down, its got to be “Infernal Device” in OKC GC6XJQA, S5 Tunnel by Eureka Springs GCKQWY is a close 2nd.

If money was no object, where would you like to go geocaching? It would be amazing to go on a worldwide tour finding caches hidden where movies were shot like Indiana Jones in Petra Jordan GC7B6VA, Star Wars in Tunisia GC2FDRQ, and Lord of the Rings in New Zealand GC1HCXK.

Do you like geocaching by yourself or in a group? Most of my caching is solo but the best experiences are shared.

How many First to Finds do you have? We currently have 114 FTFs.

Are you a First to Find person who is always set on go and if so, how many miles out do you have your settings on to get notifications? I have 3 different areas set up for max radius notifications. Bentonville, Joplin, and Ft Smith. Joplin and Ft Smith just so I know about new caches to find next time I’m in the area.

Do you have any other hobbies besides geocaching? Other hobbies would be Jeeping / Off-Roading, camping, and hiking.

The Membership Relations Committee is happy to showcase some ArkGeo Geocachers through the "Geocacher Profile". The committee thought The O'Malley Family aka HogWildFamilyof6 should be the next cachers to be in the spotlight.

What is your geocaching name? HogWildFamilyof6 (2 children have their own- GeoWildChild and Noswad Yellamo

How did you choose your handle? We are a hog callin, Razorback cheerin’ wild family of 6, so what else would we be called? Our youngest daughter was named the geowildchild by our geo buddy FattRobb because she was always going wild ready to jump out of the car and find the cache and Noswad is our son (Dawson O’Malley) spelled backwards cuz he is a backwards kind of guy.

How long have you been geocaching? We started caching January 29, 2011.

How did you find your first Geocache, and which one was it? The cache name is ‘Come on in’. On 1/29/11, it was 72 degrees outside and I googled “fun things to do outside with the kids” since it was so nice on a winter day. Geocaching was the first thing to pop up. We had no cell phones and no knowledge of what this hobby was, so I printed out the page with a small map and info about the cache that was in a cemetery down the road from us. Long story short, I pulled up and parked directly in front of the grave site of my husband’s dad. (I always asked about his dad and he never really told me much about him.) After I realized I was at the cemetery where his dad was, I apologized and told him we could leave. His response was “you know what is even stranger about this?” I asked “what” and he said “today is my dad’s birthday”. Tearfully, I told him we would leave and he said “come on kiddos, it’s time to meet your grandpa”. We didn’t find the cache that day, but we had a wonderful time getting to know my father-in-law and grandfather that none of us was able to know.

Who usually goes with you when you go caching? Typically, myself and my husband (Boss Hog) but our kiddos LOVE to cache too.

How long will you work on puzzle caches before you give up? Per Boss Hog, “5 minutes” lol

What town/areas have you most enjoyed caching in? We enjoyed El Dorado and Smackover area, and of course the state parks. Other than that, any place we travel.

Do you do paperless caching? yes

What kind of geocaching rig do you use? Now, it’s a Toyota Scion but most memories were made in our van. We loaded it full of picnic supplies, tents and ice chests to accommodate our day long (and sometimes weekend) excursions.

Why would you recommend anyone else to take up geocaching? Geocaching fills every void you have. You need a way to bond with the family? Geocaching does it. You want a fun way to learn math, geography, history, etc.? Geocaching is your tool. Do you want to visit some of the coolest places on earth? Give geocaching a try.

Where are you originally from? 7 generations born and raised in Texarkana, AR

In what states have you geocached? Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Tennessee, Texas and Washington

What was your first event ever attended? The meet and greet that I hosted at our local Pizza Inn, led by the great rklmbl, followed by Texarkana’s first CITO the next day.

How many caches have you found? 1042

Which type of cache container do you prefer over the rest? I really like the super unique ones. Those seem to have the best stories that you remember. Like, the one that was found in Kentucky having to crawl in the cock-pit of a staged plane crash in the mountain, or the big 5 gallon bucket found in the woods with hundreds of keys that you had to go through to find the one to unlock the container to get to the log.

What was the most famous cache that you have found? Probably the one at headquarters or the original cache location

Do you use disposable batteries or rechargeable batteries? disposable

Do you enjoy hiding or finding more as your part of the hobby? Both equally the same

Do you have a personal goal in mind when you make a hide? Ultimately, I want people to learn something they didn’t know before they leave.

What is your favorite type of cache hide? I really like the ones that are educational; not necessarily ones that have goodies in them, but one that made the finder feel they learned something neat at our town.

Out of all your hides, what are your personal favorites that you take pride in? I like the ones that my kiddos took part in creating. I love the fact that they are learning about life although they call it playing or having fun.

What do you think the proper hide to find ratio should be to keep the sport fresh? I don’t know if there is a proper number because some people are just creative and I wouldn’t want to take that talent from them, but I really do wish that people would quit doing so many log only caches in as many spots as they can because it makes it harder for those who put effort into it, to find a place to hide one.

What's your favorite geocache? Besides the experience of signing the log at GC Headquarters, I think the next one would be one that we found in Texas, Crystal Clear by Epiphany Wand, (GC4H1T6). The prize was a handmade wand that she added each time someone retrieved the one that was in the cache that you lowered out of a tree. Such time, thoughtfulness and creativity goes into each prize. She also attached a handwritten note to the wand that we found.

If money was no object, where would you like to go geocaching? Bora Bora happens to be the first place that comes to mind… but maybe that’s just because I need to go there for vacation.

Do you like geocaching by yourself or in a group? Definitely with my family.

How many First to Finds do you have? No more than 5

Are you a First to Find person who is always set on go and if so, how many miles out do you have your settings on to get notifications? We aren’t that type of person.

Do you have any other hobbies besides geocaching? Anything to do with family: camping, crafting, working our concession stand, playing games at home, and laughing uncontrollably at the crazy antics Boss Hog (aka, dad/husband) does.

The Membership Relations Committee is happy to showcase some ArkGeo Geocachers through the "Geocacher Profile". The committee thought James Crabill aka Hot~rod should be the next catcher to be in the spotlight.

What is your geocaching name? hot~rod

How did you choose your handle? Old CB handle.

How long have you been geocaching? Since 2004.

How did you find your first Geocache, and which one was it? It was in Mississippi, with a friend

Who usually goes with you when you go caching? No one.

How long will you work on puzzle caches before you give up? 5 minutes.

What town/areas have you most enjoyed caching in? Old time Clarksville, dead and gone.

Do you do paperless caching? Of course.

What kind of geocaching rig do you use? Samsung smart phones, Garmin Oregon 650T, and some previous others.

Why would you recommend anyone else to take up geocaching? Get them into the outdoors, although few folks take to the woods anymore. That will be the death of geocaching. No instant gratificiation.

Where are you originally from? Yell County Arkansas.

In what states you have geocached? Mostly Arkansas and a few neighboring states. Only a few elsewhere.

What was your first event ever attended? Cemetery Cache Lovers Payback, 2006.

How many caches have you found? 5759

Which type of cache container do you prefer over the rest? Ammo can

What was the most famous cache that you have found? Mingo

Do you use disposable batteries or rechargeable batteries? Rechargeable.

Do you enjoy hiding or finding more as your part of the hobby? Finding first. No joy in hiding something for a handful of folks to find.

Do you have a personal goal in mind when you make a hide? Neat location or just a gap in the map.

What is your favorite type of cache hide? Traditional

Out of all your hides, what are your personal favorites that you take pride in? All the ones I placed on Mt. Magazine State Park land. Bear Gap Cache, Mossback Ridge Cache.

What do you think the proper hide to find ratio should be to keep the sport fresh? 100 to 1.

How did you end up getting into this wacky hobby? Went caching with a fellow classmate on a training trip to Jackson Mississippi.

What's your favorite geocache? The Tool Man Cache (?) by Jerry Turner. Long since gone….

If money was no object, where would you like to go geocaching? Germany, New Zealand

Do you like geocaching by yourself or in a group? Just lonesome me. Or only one other person when I can find someone to go.

How many First to Finds do you have? A few hundred.

Are you a First to Find person who is always set on go and if so, how many miles out do you have your settings on to get notifications? 40 miles.

Do you have any other hobbies besides geocaching? Yes. Hunting, Trail Running, Road and Mountain Biking.

The Membership Relations Committee is happy to showcase some ArkGeo Geocachers through the "Geocacher Profile". The committee thought Chris Knox aka Captain Cooder should be the next cacher to be in the spotlight.

01. What is your geocaching name?
Captain Cooder

02. How did you choose your handle?
It was a silly nickname given to me by my brothers when I was a teenager.

03. How long have you been geocaching?
Since February 2003

04. How did you find your first Geocache, and which one was it?
My first geocache was "Lake Harrison Trail Cache" GCBC60. I DNF'd it the first two times I looked for it. I e-mailed the owner for help and he gave me hints. When I found it, I was embarrassed because it was so obvious and rather large.

05. Who usually goes with you when you go caching?
I usually go alone, but hot-rod and I have cached together a lot.

06. How long will you work on puzzle caches before you give up?
I have never given up on a puzzle cache... at least one that is local. I have failed to solve some puzzle caches in distant areas, and I have some solved that I may never hunt. Captain Atom’s “Sudoku” haunts me because the icon remains on my radar. I solved the puzzle, but DNF’d the ammo can. Arrgh.

07. What town/areas have you most enjoyed caching in?
I especially enjoy anything involving a hike in the woods, night caches and watercaches. I will seek them out. Cardinal's Lake Wilson Series was my all time favorite, and I have especially fond memories of hunting AR-Hick's caches in Conway County; they were clever, well-hidden and humorous, and I hunted a lot of them at night in the wee hours of the morning.

08. Do you do paperless caching?
Of course. I fully recall the days of paper caching and the first primitive paperless systems. We've still got a way to go with digital transfer of information, but it's come a long way.

09. What kind of geocaching rig do you use?
I have pretty much always used DeLorme GPSrs. I visited their HQ in Maine in 1999 and I was very impressed. They have the best tech support of any company I know. They were first to introduce a geocaching-specific GPSr and the only company that manufactures a personal locator beacon (PLB) with SMS capability, the InReach. I currently have dual DeLorme PN-60Ws and two Magellan GCs in reserve. I use my iPhone now for getting close to GZ, then the real GPSrs for the fine tuning. Amazingly, out of a dozen or so GPSrs that I have owned, none of them have been a Garmin. Garmin now owns DeLorme.

10. Why would you recommend anyone else to take up geocaching?
It's cerebral and fun. If you are into geography, maps, exploration, treasure hunting, puzzle solving, it is quite fun. The "secret society" aspect with code names is also a blast.

11. Where are you originally from?
Born and raised in “L.A.” That's Lower Arkansas—Union County, El Dorado.

12. In what states have you geocached?
I've cached in 19 states, mostly in the central area, as well as Mexico and the Cayman Islands. I visited 9 more states before geocaching was possible, as well as Canada and Honduras.

13. What was your first event ever attended?
GC1N6QR "A Half-Century Celebration." It was hosted by bluesybreeze and was edieo's 50th birthday. I felt right at home, and Edie and I became quick friends.

14. How many caches have you found?
4,660. I was coasting on my way to 5K before my divorce 5 years ago, then hit a severe slump. I got busy with other time-consuming activities and remarried, and my geocaching activity has picked up but is slow. Since my divorce, I’ve only averaged about 13 caches per month. Not shabby, but before I was cruising at about 100 per month.

15. Which type of cache container do you prefer over the rest?
The most memorable ones are the small or micros that are incredibly clever or humorous. I would vote to ban nanos.

16. What was the most famous cache that you have found?
Probably Mingo. Next would be Kittiewake, off the coast of Grand Cayman, my only SCUBA cache.

17. Do you use disposable batteries or rechargeable batteries?
Both. I use rechargeables when they are recharged, but always keep regular alkaline available. Lithium lasts longer, but is prohibitively expensive.

18. Do you enjoy hiding or finding more as your part of the hobby?
They are both equally enjoyable to me.

19. Do you have a personal goal in mind when you make a hide?
Unless it's just a routine cache to pad your numbers, the caches I'm most proud of are the ones that make you smile or laugh at something creative or an inside joke, or as a reward for solving a puzzle. I never want anyone to leave GZ frustrated or angry with a DNF.

20. What is your favorite type of cache hide?
The most memorable ones are the clever mechanical ones where you have to operate some mysterious contraption or put clues together to solve a puzzle to crack it. As everyone probably knows, I have an obsession with projection caches. I also love getting all suited up for a nice hike in the woods on a fall day and climbing a hill, visiting a waterfall, etc... especially with hot-rod; any outdoor adventure, woods or water.

21. Out of all your hides, what are your personal favorites that you take pride in?
The one that amuses me the most is GC2TNEP "Ho-hum Hydrant." It's a cruel pleasure, but has more favorite points than any of my others. I suffered more than anyone who has hunted the cache in hiding it, so I feel justified. I like GC2GK83 "Russellville Geocacher's Bemusement" because it's a clever container combined with a clever puzzle that I stole from Nicodemus3 and improved upon, and GC3M359 "Transmission Intercepted" because of the original puzzle. My "It's All About the Numbers" series that Kevin Cackler helped guide me with has a cool punchline. My Starlight 365 nightcache series is archived now, but that was unique. A couple from Springfield, MO came down the day the cache was published, just to hunt the series. Talk about an ego boost.

22. What do you think the proper hide to find ratio should be to keep the sport fresh?
I’m not concerned about the ratio, really. Currently, mine is about 17:1. I think what is more important is that one should not be allowed to hide a cache until one has about 100 finds under his belt. I don’t think at this point there should be a cap on how many caches one can hide, but now that I have 275 hides, it’s quite a chore keeping up on maintenance.

23. How did you end up getting into this wacky hobby?
I invented it, independently, of course! Ha! I got a Lowrance Eagle GPSr for my 25^th birthday in 1996, four years before Geocaching was possible. At that time, navigating to within 200 yards was great. When Selective Activation (SA) was turned off in May, 2000, I thought it was dubious. I went home and pulled out a topo quad map and determined exact coords to the middle of a bridge over a creek in the woods. I plugged in the coords and let my GPSr guide me to the spot to test the new accuracy. I ended up 8 feet from my target. You should have seen the joy on my face; I was absolutely giddy! I thought, “What if I hid a secret code at certain locations in the woods? One could navigate to the location, retrieve the code and I could verify it. Or maybe the information at one location could lead to another location, like going from flag to flag in orienteering. We’ll call it “GPS Orienteering.” However, I had no friends with GPS receivers, and the internet was non-existent at the time. I didn’t hear of “Geocaching” for another three years. Shucks, I could have been an Ulmer or an Irish.

24. What's your favorite geocache?
I have to say, the very last one I found, Night Hiker’s “Head’s Up” GC30NTJ, is one I would love to show someone to introduce them to the game. The single best day I ever had caching was chasing Cardinal’s Lake Wilson Series in NWA. It was a perfect day, I put miles on my boots and took in some great autumn scenery. It took a lot of thinking and calculations and was just the perfect level of difficulty. I felt like a boss for smashing the previous time record for finding all the caches, especially intuiting one cache deep in the woods where a major landmark that was needed to find the cache was missing.

25. If money was no object, where would you like to go geocaching?
I would seek out every SCUBA cache and become a diving bum. A close second would be the Pacific Northwest, for the scenery and history.

26. Do you like geocaching by yourself or in a group?
Groups/teams are always more fun in general. But I have had many memorable solo caching adventures.

27. How many First to Finds do you have?
401. I just went over the 400 mark with Hot-Rod this week.

28. Are you a First to Find person who is always set on go and if so, how many miles out do you have your settings on to get notifications?
Yes, no doubt I am a Hound. FTFs were as elusive as unicorns early on, but when I mastered the new technology, I had a slight edge over those who hadn’t quite figured it out, and I was exceedingly good at getting there first. I have also found several before they were published. Hot-Rod is a hound as well, and we both have many hides. We had to be careful not to give each other secret inside information on our hides, to allow others to have a chance. My first FTF was found around 1 am, and from then on, I was hooked. I have found many, many, many FTFs in the wee morning hours traipsing around in the dark, enough to be called “crazy.” Nowadays I usually wait for a more reasonable hour to hunt. My radius is 50 miles, but I won’t take off at any time for a cache more than about 20 miles away.

29. Do you have any other hobbies besides geocaching?
I love most outdoor activities: camping, hiking/backpacking, ATV riding, hunting, fishing, cycling, photography. Fitness activities have become a way of life more than a hobby. I’m always up for a party, and I dig live music. I love craft beer and seek out microbreweries wherever I travel.

The Membership Relations Committee is happy to showcase some ArkGeo Geocachers through the "Geocacher Profile". The committee thought Bruce Ripka aka Abiectio should be the next cacher to be in the spotlight.

What is your geocaching name? Abiectio

How did you choose your handle? I wanted a unique name and was using the name Abiectio is some creative writing so I went with it.

How long have you been geocaching? I have been caching since August 2006, so eleven years.

How did you find your first Geocache, and which one was it? I had purchased a cheap GPSr on Ebay and went out early on a Sunday morning. I managed to find three that day with Pet Land GCB8F4 being the first. I was hooked!

Who usually goes with you when you go caching? I have often cached alone, but my most common caching partner is Wrath557 from Memphis.

How long will you work on puzzle caches before you give up? Depends on the cache. Some puzzles, if they don't hook me immediately I will give up after a few minutes. Others, like Huebert, Deuteronomy, and Louis GC2NT0H, I will work on for years. I've been working on that one, off and on, since 2014.

What town/areas have you most enjoyed caching in? Anyplace I have not been before.

Do you do paperless caching? Yes, sort of. I have the cache descriptions downloaded to my GPSr but for bigger trips I create a paper caching route that includes earthcache and virtual logging requirements.

What kind of geocaching rig do you use? Currently I am using a Garmin 62ST.

Why would you recommend anyone else to take up geocaching? So you can meet awesome people and explore the world.

Where are you originally from? I started caching while living in West Memphis AR, but I grew up in Mountain Home, AR and was born in Pottstown, PA.

In what states have you geocached? I have been fortunate enough to cache in 30 states. I am mainly missing the Northeast, Southwest and a couple of the midwest states.

What was your first event ever attended? It was A Christmas Cache...uh, Bash! GCZ18W.

How many caches have you found? 5362

Which type of cache container do you prefer over the rest? Ammo can. There is something special about wonderful sound when opening or closing an ammo can.

What was the most famous cache that you have found? I suppose the most famous cache I have found would be Original Stash Tribute Plaque GCGV0P as it has the most favorite points.

Do you use disposable batteries or rechargeable batteries? Rechargeable.

Do you enjoy hiding or finding more as your part of the hobby? While I have loved both aspects of the hobby, currently I enjoy finding more than hiding.

Do you have a personal goal in mind when you make a hide? I want to take the finder someplace interesting or unique and, if it is a puzzle cache, I want the puzzle to be engaging and challenging.

What is your favorite type of cache hide? A mystery cache that ends with an ammo can in the woods.

Out of all your hides, what are your personal favorites that you take pride in? I have several hides of which I am very proud, but to keep the list manageable I'll list three. Flip Dizzy GC18M8X and the series that followed, The Mystery of the Lost Treasure of Beale GC23CMN, and The horse eats no cucumber-salad GC2DV8E.

What do you think the proper hide to find ratio should be to keep the sport fresh? I don't think there is a proper ratio. A cacher should only hide as many caches as they can properly maintain. If that is 10% great. If that is 0% that is great too.

How did you end up getting into this wacky hobby? I overheard Nvisible and itcomagic talking about caching and decided to give it a try.

What's your favorite geocache? This is always a tough question as there are so many caches that I loved finding, but if I can only pick one I suppose it would be The Key to the Cryptonomicon GCXBFC.

If money was no object, where would you like to go geocaching? Brazil, so I could hunt the last remaining APE cache. Mission 4: Southern Bowl GCC67.

Do you like geocaching by yourself or in a group? Both.

How many First to Finds do you have? Not sure. When I last looked several years ago it was more than 50.

Are you a First to Find person who is always set on go and if so, how many miles out do you have your settings on to get notifications? While I am no longer someone who hustles for First to Find I do have my notifications set out to 50 miles for both Conway and West Memphis and mystery caches in Rome GA for 30 miles.

Do you have any other hobbies besides geocaching? Yes. Tabletop gaming and Ingress.